ULEZ - Could be some bargain older bikes for sale in & around London.

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ULEZ - Could be some bargain older bikes for sale in & around London.

Post by Jug_Inspector » Mar 6th, '18, 16:02

I've just caught wind of the impending ULEZ for London.

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra- ... ssion-zone

It actually effects motorcycles now, anything which is not at least Euro3 (2007 onwards) has to pay £12.50 a day to ride central London.

Residents are being given a little extra time to change vehicles but commuters will be hit from 8th April onwards.

I'd expect there to be glut of pre-2007 bikes to be for sale around now.
Might have to raid the piggy bank... :mrgreen:

BTW - Also effects cars too. Euro 4 for Petrol, Euro 6 for diesel.
The fee is £100 for vans older than Euro 6, so expect a load of cheap vans too, could be time to buy that track day van now.

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Post by billinom8s » Mar 6th, '18, 21:01

and a track bike to go inside it?
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Post by Funky » Mar 6th, '18, 21:09

Bit of a commute...
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Post by Mervin » Mar 6th, '18, 21:26

The Motorcycle Action Group (MAG) strongly urges Transport for London
(TfL) to drop its victimisation of the poorest in society to no public
or environmental benefit, and has called on TfL to demonstrate ‘a degree
of moderation and common sense.’
MAG submitted a further response to TfL on the long-running threatened
user charges for riders of older motorbikes. Machines built before
around 2007 face a massive £12.50 per day charge in the capital. MAG’s
Director of Communications & Public Affairs, Lembit Öpik, has appealed
to TfL ‘to show a degree of common sense here. The category of riders
using older machines is small, and they largely do so because they can’t
afford newer bikes. It’s hugely socially unjust to hike up the cost of
their commute by over 1,000% while drivers in cars like a new Rolls
Royce pay nothing – even though these obviously generate more emissions
than a 20-year-old 50cc four-stroke moped. We’ve made our points
repeatedly – and with painstaking reference to science and social
realities and the problem of getting to work at unsociable hours to do
low-paid jobs. TfL can still do the right thing and recognise that
they’re simply punishing those least able to pay more for public
transport or for a newer motorbike.

‘Remember, there’s no benefit to the environment. These bikes produce
almost no pollution and reduce congestion, thereby reducing ‘secondary’
pollution. Forcing them off the road increases pressure on over-loaded
public transport, or drives these citizens out of work altogether. MAG
has presented TfL with a moderate and well reasoned case but we have
received no indication that they are listening.

The MAG response is available here:

https://wiki.mag-uk.org/images/8/8f/CAZ_2017_02_26.pdf


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Post by billinom8s » Mar 6th, '18, 23:17

When folks ditch their car for a bike to get into town the 'man' will lose income, so 'the man' then raises the fee on the next chosen form of transport.

Will make chasing the bike thieves easier though.
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Post by Jug_Inspector » Mar 7th, '18, 09:24

I suspect that it's a requirement from the EU, and that the current mayor is such a Europhile he certainly isn't going to oppose it.
Bring back Boris!

Just had quick google and seems it wasn't due to hit us until September 2020 but Sadiq Khan brought the date forward.
https://trimis.ec.europa.eu/news/london ... ssion-zone

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Post by badgerKDD » Mar 29th, '18, 19:44

As Merv highlighted this is the thin end of the wedge, what happens in London often gets carried to other major cities, especially if there's a few quid to be made by councils under the guise of Helping the Environment.

A cheap motorbike from that there London, may be great, but not if you then can't commute anywhere else on the said 'bargain'......
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