Old analogue versus new bells and whistles.

[Jug]

There will always be old school riders that criticise the new tech... and I often read/hear that "new riders won't ever learn how to ride properly".
I think we all know that is complete rubbish. These riders aids don't ride for you, they just try to save it when you get it all wrong.

I think the general sentiment on this thread is that we agree that you don't need it but it is nice to have it.
That is apart from early ABS systems as they are just terrible.

[bkingalan]

My 1290 stays in track mode permanently anti wheelie off with no problems as Brian said right hand/ brain interface your fate is in your right wrist

[menzies3032]

I am agreeing with you guys all these rider aids are there "Just Incase" when you ride the bike the way you should ride the bike on the road you use none of them....... So why have them?
For the one time when sh*t happens and it all goes wrong and you need that extra helping hand.

Every time I go to a Pembrey I watch some bloke on a BMWS1000RR who is all proud of his traction control and the blinking light heading skywards when the traction control runs out of talent.

The safety electrics are there for the just incase not the every day, if your leaning on them all the time your asking for trouble.

[Ruffian]

I have to admit. On the roads I like the electronics on my speed triple.

When playing hard I tend to shift it back into rain mode.
Slacker throttle response and dialled down bhp. This was can actually ride the bike harder without it wanting to bite. Which makes me think that I couldn't use the bike to it's full potential unless on a road I really knew or a track.

Which makes me enjoy riding my Bonneville more.
Only got abs but not enough power to spin up the rear wheel. 54bhp is enough to still ride most stuff and give chase.

[Jug]

When playing hard I tend to shift it back into rain mode.
Slacker throttle response and dialled down bhp. This was can actually ride the bike harder without it wanting to bite. Which makes me think that I couldn't use the bike to it's full potential unless on a road I really knew or a track.

Funny you should mention that.
I watched that vid again yesterday (but didn't skip bits this time) and although their conclusion was the rear shock was likely too soft on the Pani I think it is entirely possible that the Pani V4 is just too much bike to use well unless you're a racer.
Rutter tested it for PB and he said it scared him!

Anyway.. what lucky catch with the stator bolts!
That could have got messy .

[Ruffian]

Stick with small block racing.
Something sub 100bhp and useable is much more fun