Speeding Ticket

Little Loris · Post by **Little Loris** » Oct 16th, '07, 16:59

Muggins 'ere picked up a 'Notice of Intended Prosecution' for doing 40 in a 30 on the way back from the Combe. Sodding villages have a 30, then a 60, then a 20, then a 40, then a 50, then a 20, then a 60 and I'd not even done a mile! Friggin' passengers all had broken noses and blood smeared over the windscreen from all the stop/start crap.

Ok the latter is just rubbish. I'm just a bit bitter as I'm the slowest driver (and rider for that matter) the world has to offer.

Anyway, I have some questions. What is the fine/penalty point system for doing this speed in a 30? The notice doesn't say. I don't think its worth appealing unless someone knows of any loopholes in the system I can butt-rape?

Any info would be a great help.

tony · Post by **tony** » Oct 16th, '07, 17:03

£60 and 3 points

I got done on the new bridge in barney last monday

Little Loris · Post by **Little Loris** » Oct 16th, '07, 17:06

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

I heard that, if the police didn't send you the notice within 14 days of the offence, you could appeal without further penalty? Or something like that.

Banditmax · Post by **Banditmax** » Oct 16th, '07, 17:52

Yeah but did you receive it within 14 days?

Clarkey · Post by **Clarkey** » Oct 16th, '07, 17:55

Were you caught on a camera?
if so ask for the proof of calbration at the time of aledged offence
that mite stump them! if they cant provide it they cant do u apparently!

I got caught on a30 under the M5 going thro a red light on the camera a friendly lawyer told me to let it go to court write letter saying how very sorry i was and staywell away from the hearing on the day!

Good luck

Sir SUKI · Post by **Sir SUKI** » Oct 16th, '07, 18:30

when you recieve penalty notice send a cheque for £60.01. Adding the 1p will mean they aren't allowed to cash your cheque as it is more than the penalty notice. no cheque=no points. you gave them they're money just adding a little for their trouble ;) call it a tip!

Mike Daytona600 · Post by **Mike Daytona600** » Oct 16th, '07, 19:07

Sir SUKI wrote:when you recieve penalty notice send a cheque for £60.01. Adding the 1p will mean they aren't allowed to cash your cheque as it is more than the penalty notice. no cheque=no points. you gave them they're money just adding a little for their trouble ;) call it a tip!

I read this in Superbike a few years back but I think it was like this

Send them a cheque for £60.01. They will send you a cheque back for the 1p. Burn it. They can't prosicute you any further while they owe you money

Wurth a go.

The other thing that I thought of is if they used a gun can they prove there was no 'slipage'? Occures to me that you see them going on about walls doing 50 on the tele all the time.

Post by **TLS-Moose** » Oct 16th, '07, 19:15

Clarkey wrote:I got caught on a30 under the M5 going thro a red light on the camera a friendly lawyer told me to let it go to court write letter saying how very sorry i was and staywell away from the hearing on the day!

Well I am afraid you get no sympathy for that here - and indeed you should not have been let off.

And ys, I am entitled to say that as someone who has been rear-ended

at that very junction by an ignorant tw*t too thick to see a three red lights in front of him, despite the lights being visible for over a third of a mile. We got hit so hard that despite the handbrake being on and my foot on the footbrake, whilst at the white line for a red light, the car came to rest under the hard shoulder of the North bound carriageway. My sons friend in the rear was taken to hospital with a suspected fractured jaw and cheek-bone, and I had a dozen stitches to a scalp deep cut in the back of my head. Our car was written off.

Barely a day go's past without some moron causing an accident at that junction - usually due to lack of sufficient attention or excessive speed (it is only 40, not the 60 most people travel at there ........)

ANY speeding offence, you do the crime you pay the fine. YOU control the speed you travel at. It's no point crying when you get pulled. If you can get of on a loop-hole it's exactly that. No different to any other criminal, from OJ simpson down .......

I fail to see how there can be ANY loop-hole for a red light camera - it was either red or it wasn't. You wouldn't be laughing if a car did it to you as you went through on your bike would you

What you did is no different to the standard "sorry mate I didn't see you" response, is it

Sorry for the rant, I don't even know you, but you struck a bit of a sore point point for me

SlowR1der · Post by **SlowR1der** » Oct 16th, '07, 19:24

As it stands then you are probably looking at £60 and 3 points or thats what you would have probably got if stopped at the roadside. If you appeal and take it to court and are still found guilty then you have the court costs plus the costs for the officer attending court if it goes that far.

In your first paragraph you have stated that you picked up a NIP and then in a later paragraph you ask if the police have to send it through within 14 days. So the question is were you stopped at the roadside or not?

It may help clear a few things up.

Andy R · Post by **Andy R** » Oct 16th, '07, 19:26

Try this site,it might help.

http://www.pepipoo.com/

Mike Daytona600 · Post by **Mike Daytona600** » Oct 16th, '07, 19:42

TLS-Moose wrote:[
ANY speeding offence, you do the crime you pay the fine. YOU control the speed you travel at. It's no point crying when you get pulled. If you can get of on a loop-hole it's exactly that. No different to any other criminal, from OJ simpson down .......

So you'd rather people were looking at theirs speedo more so not paying atention to the road resulting in shunting someone

People can sort of feel how fast they are with the ocasional glance at the speedo but with camaras you can't be sure so have to look at the speedo more just incase. I've been well within the limit and seen a camara and slamed on the brakes, just incase. Camaras are fecking dangerous.

But if you are guilty then you are but why should insurance companies make money from it. I'd rather pay a little more in a fine and not get the points and have the fine moey go towards road safety, bendy signs, zedbra crossings, etc.

Rant over

SlowR1der · Post by **SlowR1der** » Oct 16th, '07, 19:53

Problem is with the 'pay the little more fine and no points option' is those with a little more money would never really be punished would they because a little fine (or even a massive fine) will mean absolutely nothing to them.

However after racking up a few points they might start to think about their actions on the road a little more.

We

Post by **TLS-Moose** » Oct 16th, '07, 20:00

Mike Daytona600 wrote:
TLS-Moose wrote:[
ANY speeding offence, you do the crime you pay the fine. YOU control the speed you travel at. It's no point crying when you get pulled. If you can get of on a loop-hole it's exactly that. No different to any other criminal, from OJ simpson down .......

So you'd rather people were looking at theirs speedo more so not paying atention to the road resulting in shunting someone

People can sort of feel how fast they are with the ocasional glance at the speedo but with camaras you can't be sure so have to look at the speedo more just incase. I've been well within the limit and seen a camara and slamed on the brakes, just incase. Camaras are fecking dangerous.

But if you are guilty then you are but why should insurance companies make money from it. I'd rather pay a little more in a fine and not get the points and have the fine moey go towards road safety, bendy signs, zedbra crossings, etc.

Rant over

I'm not saying that at all, and in fact in most cases agree totally re. speed camera's - what I AM saying is, everyone knows the speed limits. Most people choose to exceed them. It seems somewhat hypocritical to knowingly break the law, and then cry about getting caught.

It takes a pretty poorly fuelled bike not to be able to hold an even(ish) 30/40/50 (and they didn't come much worse fuelled as stock than a '97 TL ......

)

Yes, I have (in the past .... ) broken the speed limit, yes I have been punished for it (severely in one instance ....) Yes, I have also been let off licence losing incidents by "reasonable" traffic officers. I too have gon ethrough sections with a camera in it and suddenly thought "sh*t, what was I doing when I went through there

"

That doesn't get away from the fact you KNOWINGLY break the law when you open the throttle, and it seems a bit rich to cry about it afterwards if you do happen to get caught

deej · Post by **deej** » Oct 16th, '07, 20:57

got to agree with you 100% there moose, we all speed but to different degrees. if you get caught you get caught accept the punishment at its earleist and move on.
dont ignore it as crowler did for over 6 months and end up in court with a £275 fine plus points cause someone told him not to respond to the NIP.

bambam · Post by **bambam** » Oct 16th, '07, 21:13

for my two pennith take the 60 quid and 3 points and and be more careful next time. if u go to court and get done u will get more points and a bigger fine!!

personally i agree with moose no point crying about it WHEN u get caught.
YOU were the one twisting the throttle