Jack up kit

Banditdave · Post by **Banditdave** » Jun 19th, '06, 18:15

Just after a bit of advice i have a 600 bandit does anyone no if i was to put a 40mm jack up kit on,would it make the handeling of the bike better?and would it effect the wear of the tyres to?
cheers

svr-ash · Post by **svr-ash** » Jun 19th, '06, 18:20

Yes it would make the bike turn in quicker and i don't think the tyres would wear quicker

I'm looking for some metal so i can make some dog bones to raise mine 2 1/2 inches

tomr6 · Post by **tomr6** » Jun 19th, '06, 19:13

Be careful there Ash. I jacked up mine by 30mm and it turns like its on rails but slaps like a pissed up loony over 135. I'd rather have the cornering than str8 line stability tho so I dont really mind!

Webber · Post by **Webber** » Jun 19th, '06, 19:19

if its ground clearence your doin it for, then if your doin that to the rear u must raise the front by pushing the forks through the yokes, that way it should handle the same but give u a little more ground clearence. but if you want it to turn quicker, leave em or drop the front slightly. becareful though, like tom says it can turn a bike into a bucking bronco ride.

svr-ash · Post by **svr-ash** » Jun 19th, '06, 19:22

tomr6 wrote:Be careful there Ash. I jacked up mine by 30mm and it turns like its on rails but slaps like a [drunk] up loony over 135. I'd rather have the cornering than str8 line stability tho so I dont really mind!

I can't do 135

born2rock86 · Post by **born2rock86** » Jun 19th, '06, 19:27

svr-ash wrote:
tomr6 wrote:Be careful there Ash. I jacked up mine by 30mm and it turns like its on rails but slaps like a [drunk] up loony over 135. I'd rather have the cornering than str8 line stability tho so I dont really mind!
I can't do 135

I thought you could do 147!

svr-ash · Post by **svr-ash** » Jun 19th, '06, 19:38

born2rock86 wrote:
svr-ash wrote:
tomr6 wrote:Be careful there Ash. I jacked up mine by 30mm and it turns like its on rails but slaps like a [drunk] up loony over 135. I'd rather have the cornering than str8 line stability tho so I dont really mind!
I can't do 135
I thought you could do 147!

Firstly it was a joke and secondly I've changed the gearing

Mined you the SVs speedo is apparently optamistic higher up the speeds but my new set-up is far more accurate

Banditdave · Post by **Banditdave** » Jun 19th, '06, 20:03

Thanks for your info just one more question if i did put a jack up kit on, it would be a 35mm one, would carrying a pillion be a problem as well.
Cheers

age · Post by **age** » Jun 19th, '06, 20:58

To be honnest mate If ya want it to handle better I would suddgest getting your suspension sorted mate.

If you want to do a free handling mod and you want to get the bike to steer quicker then just drop the forks through the yokes by 10mm.

Your main problem with the Bandit is your lack of adjustments on suspension, My mate has a 1200 bandit and he fitted a hyperpro rear shock an progressive front springs, this transformed the bike.

Age

boyscout · Post by **boyscout** » Jun 19th, '06, 22:06

My thougts for what they're worth...

I tend to agree with Age - there's not too much to be gained with a poor OE rear shock, unfortunately a quality one will cost £400+. However, even a Hagon with only combined damping and pre-load adjustment should improve a bandit 6 at a cost of about £250. Remember it'll still be a bandit 6 at the end of the day so you need to watch the costs.

With regard to the front end you don't need to spend too much, you can improve the damping with slightly heavier oil (mix 50/50 to go up half a weight at a time), improve the spring rate with a slightly higher oil level (in 10mm stages to increase the air spring effect) and improve pre-load by dropping in plastic pipe spacers (10 mm then increase length in 5mm stages) .... aahh, takes me back to the old days when I was a la...zzzz..zzz..zzz... ZZZZ... ZZZZ

Just a thought... before you do anything else, have you checked your static sag?

Banditdave · Post by **Banditdave** » Jun 20th, '06, 21:28

Thanks for all your help i dont think i shall worry about the jack up kit now, i might try changing oil in forks or drop them through the yokes abit like age suggested, does any one no what the cost for the hyperpro rear shock and progressive front springs would be.the only promblem i have is mainly with a pillion it does not handel as good,so if i can make it better that would be great,solo its not to bad but theres room for inprovement.

cheers

age · Post by **age** » Jun 20th, '06, 22:08

Banditdave wrote:Thanks for all your help i dont think i shall worry about the jack up kit now, i might try changing oil in forks or drop them through the yokes abit like age suggested, does any one no what the cost for the hyperpro rear shock and progressive front springs would be.the only promblem i have is mainly with a pillion it does not handel as good,so if i can make it better that would be great,solo its not to bad but theres room for inprovement.

cheers

Have you wound you sping preload up for 2 up ?

Age

andrew · Post by **andrew** » Jun 21st, '06, 07:53

Banditdave wrote:Thanks for all your help i dont think i shall worry about the jack up kit now, i might try changing oil in forks or drop them through the yokes abit like age suggested, does any one no what the cost for the hyperpro rear shock and progressive front springs would be.the only promblem i have is mainly with a pillion it does not handel as good,so if i can make it better that would be great,solo its not to bad but theres room for inprovement.

cheers

best bet with the rear shock would be a hagon. I have one on my triumph and it works just fine. Hagon will rebuild it and even lengthen it if u want them too for £95. This shock has worked great on the triumph and i'm sure u will fin it more than good enough for your needs they really are great value for money at £200-£250.

Banditdave · Post by **Banditdave** » Jun 21st, '06, 18:58

AGE wrote:
Banditdave wrote:Thanks for all your help i dont think i shall worry about the jack up kit now, i might try changing oil in forks or drop them through the yokes abit like age suggested, does any one no what the cost for the hyperpro rear shock and progressive front springs would be.the only promblem i have is mainly with a pillion it does not handel as good,so if i can make it better that would be great,solo its not to bad but theres room for inprovement.

cheers
Have you wound you sping preload up for 2 up ?

Age

I did adjust the rear shock on to a higher setting (6 i think) for 2 up but it didnt handel that great maybe i should try a lower setting to see how that handels.

Banditdave · Post by **Banditdave** » Jun 21st, '06, 19:04

andrew wrote:
Banditdave wrote:Thanks for all your help i dont think i shall worry about the jack up kit now, i might try changing oil in forks or drop them through the yokes abit like age suggested, does any one no what the cost for the hyperpro rear shock and progressive front springs would be.the only promblem i have is mainly with a pillion it does not handel as good,so if i can make it better that would be great,solo its not to bad but theres room for inprovement.

cheers
best bet with the rear shock would be a hagon. I have one on my triumph and it works just fine. Hagon will rebuild it and even lengthen it if u want them too for £95. This shock has worked great on the triumph and i'm sure u will fin it more than good enough for your needs they really are great value for money at £200-£250.

Cheers for that i shall keep that in mind.going to try a few other things that people have sugested, and go from there.