What tyres are you running???

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furry";p="33232 wrote:Alot of those miles were motorway at fast speeds so prolly why it lasted longer...

I will add though...that when I changed that tyre...it was down to the metal LOL

Even so for town/twisties use should still see well over 3000 from one of em...and it's not like they are that expensive either :)

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Hmm motorways should wear the tyre out quicker as they get hotter the faster you go mate.

my front diablo is the corsa one and the rear is just the normal standard one.
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BUt 90 mph cruise is fairly slow on a bike. And also there is no acceleration pushing the tyre to maximum grip, so less wear.

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CvPiper";p="33243 wrote:BUt 90 mph cruise is fairly slow on a bike. And also there is no acceleration pushing the tyre to maximum grip, so less wear.

Not that I know [Censored] all about tyres ;)
The faster you go mate increases friction, friction= heat,the faster you go =more heat.

Also the heavier the vehicle = more friction etc
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Hi Peeps, Just got back and read the later posts on this thread...
as Dave (Firestorm) doesn't post anymore and I was a Metzeler factory trained tyre technician (long, long story!! :oops: )... I can clarify a couple of point made earlier:

Bridgestone dual compound. Almost all Bridgestone 'bike tyres are dual compound they are identifiable by "SACT" markings on the blurb (and as far as I'm aware on the tyre too).

Heat Transfer: The heat transfer into the tyre is not a function of the compound but the carcass; the Zero degree technology of Metzeler and Pirelli is best at doing this especially when combined with their steel belts. The worst is nylon ply which is why crossplies wear out quick and have to be harder compound rubber (less grip) because the heat stays local and the tyre wears too quickly so has to be harder.

Pirelli / Metzeler: The tyres are not the same and are made in different factories. However the construction and compound are the same and the tread patterns are developed in parallel because Pirelli / Metzeler have one Research and Development department, not two.

Generally I would say that a lot of truth has been put forward in the posts, ie Confidence is the most important thing and feel is very critical in developing that confidence.

Personally, I would never buy Avon because IMHO they spend too little time in R&D and quality control. I would never buy Dunlop because IMHO they have little quality control across their factories so one can have variety between otherwise identical tyres of different origin.

That said; between Pirelli, Metzeler, Michelin and Bridgestone their products, (like for like) are pretty comparable grip and wear wise, but will have a different "feel".

Also, if you are not in the market for a "hyper-sports" tyre... Continental are pretty good all-rounders and fairly inexpensive. And just don't even think about Chen-Shing... ask Andrew!! :shock:

Anyway I'll cut this short now or I'll be in competition with Furry for the longest post! :wink: :lol:
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LOL carry on m8 that post was ace!

Bridgestone : As far as I know the BT010,012,014 are single compound...which is why they wear out so quick...but I think all the others like you said are dual tread compound???

Anyway least I got a full technical expo on the Pirelli's...As I said found they worked miles better on the TL than the Metz...but I think the Metz I had on at the time were less stable due to tread pattern rather than what the actual tyre was made out of...they still offered good grip...just picked up on every lump and bump in the road :(

Avon.....yuk stop swearing m8! LOL

Chen-Shing...yer enough said wouldn't touch them with a barge pole :D

I've heard bad story's about Michelin and Dunlop...I know the latter like you said are hit or miss...was told Michelin are pretty much the same :S
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Just finished some research and my ex-colleagues and I think that all of the Bridgestone sports tyres are dual compound; the SACT I talked about in the earlier post is one version but later versions are DAC and DTC. It's all a bit technical but basically SACT had two compounds laid as one in the middle and one on the edges; DAC has one piece of rubber but then it is cured in a patented method to give progressively varying hardness from crown to shoulder; finally, DTC is method of varying hardeness through varying laminations of different hardness and progressively varying thickness across the tyre from shoulder to crown to shoulder.

I hope this isn't keeping anyone awake! - I'm prepared to bet it's not! :lol:

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AGE996";p="33262 wrote:
CvPiper";p="33243 wrote:BUt 90 mph cruise is fairly slow on a bike. And also there is no acceleration pushing the tyre to maximum grip, so less wear.

Not that I know [Censored] all about tyres ;)
The faster you go mate increases friction, friction= heat,the faster you go =more heat.

Also the heavier the vehicle = more friction etc
BUt cruising at 80/90 mph isn't that fast imo, whacking it out of a bend on full power and 90 mph going up past 150 is fast ;) thus you work the tyre for grip with creates movement in the carcass and increases heat too.
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boyscout";p="33277 wrote:And just don't even think about Chen-Shing... ask Andrew!! :shock:
:lol: :shock: :shock: And 'Golden Boy' are even worse then Cheng-Shin :roll:
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