Hello to all and HELP
I really want to do a single swingarm conversion to my GSX-R 750 K7.
But i need a point well more a hand holding to start. I have been looking and seen that they have used a vfr 800 swingarm. And i think a old honda hawk or somthing im not to sure think it was a 650cc but as stated ubove i need help in every way cant afford to spend any money on the wrong thing. So if anyone has any idea how to do this or has done it please could if possible you give me all the information you think i would need. I will even take information that I dont need. This isn't going to be a buy it all and do in one go as the money is always a issue as i have very little.
So any and all information welcome.
Thanks
Scott
GSX-R Single Swingarm conversion
Forum rules
No piss taking or stick poking from those who do, or think they know more.
ANY ABUSE WILL BE REMOVED, RECYCLED AND FIRED BACK WITH A BIG FRICKIN GUN.
No piss taking or stick poking from those who do, or think they know more.
ANY ABUSE WILL BE REMOVED, RECYCLED AND FIRED BACK WITH A BIG FRICKIN GUN.
-
billinom8s
- Site Admin
- Posts: 20546
- Joined: Sep 10th, '05, 22:31
- First Name: simon
- Location: Teignmouth
Re: GSX-R Single Swingarm conversion
talk to cobrabuilder
07977507395
don't forget we are onX and Instagrambelieve it or not !!!
southwestbikers@southwestbikers (original, I know.
KTM 1290 SDR
KTM 690 supermoto smc R,
Zx10r trackbike,
ktm 350 excf muddy
Suspension and bike work undertaken.
don't forget we are onX and Instagrambelieve it or not !!!
southwestbikers@southwestbikers (original, I know.
KTM 1290 SDR
KTM 690 supermoto smc R,
Zx10r trackbike,
ktm 350 excf muddy
Suspension and bike work undertaken.
-
badgerKDD
- Site Moderator
- Posts: 4997
- Joined: Apr 21st, '08, 19:59
- First Name: Badger
- Location: Redruth, Cornwall
Re: GSX-R Single Swingarm conversion
yeah he did an awesome job with a ZX10 swing arm rebuild/ weld/ thingy......Check the mechanical threads I think 
.......curse my pea brain with jelly memory ;)
.......curse my pea brain with jelly memory ;)Cut me in half and I'v got Suzuki written right through me!
Ride GSXR 750 WR ( 1994) .
Ride GSXR 750 WR ( 1994) .
Re: GSX-R Single Swingarm conversion
Well to me there are more options out there which shoukd eb looked at also,
There is the ducati, honda and triumph single sided arms,
The honda one is what most people use that I have seen but
then the triumphs are so common now the prices should be cheapish,
There is the ducati, honda and triumph single sided arms,
The honda one is what most people use that I have seen but
then the triumphs are so common now the prices should be cheapish,
"Welding is like cheese on toast! It gets hot and sticks together"
-
TLS-Moose
- Site Admin
- Posts: 7148
- Joined: Dec 14th, '05, 22:59
- Location: The fringes of NA, sadly not the UK equivalent of LA!!
Re: GSX-R Single Swingarm conversion
Where's my response that this gone?
I spent ages writing a post this afternoon .........
Anyhoo, a quick summary ....
First stop, try Old Skool Suzuki - I doubt your the first to try this, and someone might be able to save a lot of grief.
You need to measure the width of the frame across the inside of the swingarm pivot points. You need to make sure they are also equidistant to the centre line of the bike. Also measure how much metal is available on those bosses that can be shaved if needed. You need to measure the centres between wheel and pivot centres, and also the distance from bike centre line to chain run. You can't automatically assume everything is centred on the bike. Next, you need to try and measure the shock and linkage mounting points in relation to the swingarm pivot and swingarm.
The viffer 750 is probably the most common SSSA used, but you need to be careful before buying ..... Early ones are spindly looking and limited in rim size, later ones, I believe, bolt to the engine creating a gap in the centre. Triumph arms are a sturdy looking thing but quite beefy at the shock mount. MV swingarms are nice but bulky. All will/might create issues with matching wheels as a pair. Ducati arms are, by and large, out as the pivot spindle goes through the engine and the arm wraps around it.
With all the measurements from the first paragraph, you need to start visiting breakers or friendly dealers and start measuring up your candidates.
Next, you need to find a friendly fab shop, as you will need bits cut, welded, milled and lathed. Unfortunately one person down your way I would have pointed you towards passed away a couple of years back ....... and another I'd recommend (and has actually fitted a Triumph arm to his bike) is incapacitated and unable to take on work.
Of course some or all of what I've outlined can be ignored if you're not too worried about wheelbase, swingarm angle, chain run, shock linkage ratios, etc., and/or whether the bike handles like a chocolate tea trolley once done.
Are Metmachex still in business? They did a few one-off conversion kits. Harris used to do the odd one off too ........ But you'd need a budget that'd let you go buy a bike that actually comes with an SSSA in the first place.
Good luck
I spent ages writing a post this afternoon .........
Anyhoo, a quick summary ....
First stop, try Old Skool Suzuki - I doubt your the first to try this, and someone might be able to save a lot of grief.
You need to measure the width of the frame across the inside of the swingarm pivot points. You need to make sure they are also equidistant to the centre line of the bike. Also measure how much metal is available on those bosses that can be shaved if needed. You need to measure the centres between wheel and pivot centres, and also the distance from bike centre line to chain run. You can't automatically assume everything is centred on the bike. Next, you need to try and measure the shock and linkage mounting points in relation to the swingarm pivot and swingarm.
The viffer 750 is probably the most common SSSA used, but you need to be careful before buying ..... Early ones are spindly looking and limited in rim size, later ones, I believe, bolt to the engine creating a gap in the centre. Triumph arms are a sturdy looking thing but quite beefy at the shock mount. MV swingarms are nice but bulky. All will/might create issues with matching wheels as a pair. Ducati arms are, by and large, out as the pivot spindle goes through the engine and the arm wraps around it.
With all the measurements from the first paragraph, you need to start visiting breakers or friendly dealers and start measuring up your candidates.
Next, you need to find a friendly fab shop, as you will need bits cut, welded, milled and lathed. Unfortunately one person down your way I would have pointed you towards passed away a couple of years back ....... and another I'd recommend (and has actually fitted a Triumph arm to his bike) is incapacitated and unable to take on work.
Of course some or all of what I've outlined can be ignored if you're not too worried about wheelbase, swingarm angle, chain run, shock linkage ratios, etc., and/or whether the bike handles like a chocolate tea trolley once done.
Are Metmachex still in business? They did a few one-off conversion kits. Harris used to do the odd one off too ........ But you'd need a budget that'd let you go buy a bike that actually comes with an SSSA in the first place.
Good luck
Of all the things I have ever lost, I miss my mind the most .....
Handle stressful situations like a dog - If you can't eat it or play with it, pee on it and walk away
Handle stressful situations like a dog - If you can't eat it or play with it, pee on it and walk away
Re: GSX-R Single Swingarm conversion
thanks for the starting pointer and i guess i will start with a vfr 800 first for the measurements only as we are picking one up for my dad on sunday so will be able just look and see what im getting my self infor. I have a friend thats is good with machining and also have a lave and the knolege to use it lol, (altho maybe not spoken to him lately as much as i should have lol) I also care about handeling and stuff even tho I want this done just because i realy like the look as i have seen a few others done and LOVE the look of it but dont want to lose the rideability of the bike. So as said before this will be a long process.
Thanks again
Scott
Thanks again
Scott