BP GARAGE PETITION!!!!!!!

fjrnobby · Post by **fjrnobby** » Jan 28th, '07, 17:26

I agree it is a pain having to take helmets off. Have ended up dropping mine previously whilst refuelling. But are we being asked because cars etc are easily recognised by the cctv cameras because of the number plates on the front

If someone nicked my bike and was silly enough to go to a garage to refuel it, I would like someone to be able to track them down. Chances of finding them even then

Virtually NIL.

zx6ninjaboy · Post by **zx6ninjaboy** » Jan 28th, '07, 18:06

if someone is stupid enouth to steal a bike i dont think he would take his helmit off to show the world who he is would you? in a normal petrol garage they have more than 1 camara looking on the pumps they have loads at all angles ie front back so it would be easy to see a number plate on a bike

born2rock86 · Post by **born2rock86** » Jan 28th, '07, 18:56

I see the point, but just as a note - I don't think it's descrimination against bikers.

It's just a rule against helmets; do you think that if a car driver wore a helmet (Over-cautious, whatever) he'd be allowed to leave it on aswell? I don't think so...

It's not bikers, it's helmets.

Maver-Nick · Post by **Maver-Nick** » Jan 28th, '07, 19:27

Mike Daytona600 wrote: And do your kids serve muslims with their faces covered cos lets face it they're the ones blowing people up at the moment, not bikers.

It's about equality and we DON'T get it.

Like I said if it was the same for everyone with their faces covered I'd remove my lid in the interest of safety. BUT IT'S NOT

Yes they do serve muslims, they're not bigots and that's religion, this thread is fast starting to smack of racism...

(You really shouldn't post things like that, and Admin should seriously be thinking about amending the 'Blowing people up' part)

Sonic said he respects the rules abroad but it seems most on here can't do it at home.

Being asked to remove your helmet IS in the interest of safety, as is not being able to enter a bank wearing a helmet or balaclava, or most establishments where cash is likely to be stolen.

zx6ninjaboy · Post by **zx6ninjaboy** » Jan 28th, '07, 19:42

all i would like from BP is a shelf of some sort to put my helmit and all bikers helmits or change there policy i agree you shouldnt put things like that but i do see where you coming from and your veiws and comments are appreciated

zx6ninjaboy · Post by **zx6ninjaboy** » Jan 28th, '07, 19:47

born2rock86 wrote:I see the point, but just as a note - I don't think it's descrimination against bikers.

It's just a rule against helmets; do you think that if a car driver wore a helmet (Over-cautious, whatever) he'd be allowed to leave it on aswell? I don't think so...

It's not bikers, it's helmets.

i see what your saying aswell and a good point it is aswell but on a bike where can you put your helmit exept your mirror the fact is its a big inconvience to get off your bike take your helmit off put it on a oily floor or whatever get back on to fill it right up to get off again to pay ?

Maver-Nick · Post by **Maver-Nick** » Jan 28th, '07, 19:59

Hey Ninjaboy, this isn't an arguement mate...

I appreciate you posting a good thread, makes a change on here to be able to have a proper discussion about something, and see peoples' differing views on the matter.

I also agree with a lot of what 'anti-removals' have said, personally I hate taking my helmet off especially in the winter, what with gloves, neck warmers ets, and admit that I never used to until I understood why we were being asked.

zx6ninjaboy · Post by **zx6ninjaboy** » Jan 28th, '07, 20:07

Maver-Nick wrote:Hey Ninjaboy, this isn't an arguement mate...

I appreciate you posting a good thread, makes a change on here to be able to have a proper discussion about something, and see peoples' differing views on the matter.

I also agree with a lot of what 'anti-removals' have said, personally I hate taking my helmet off especially in the winter, what with gloves, neck warmers ets, and admit that I never used to until I understood why we were being asked.

hi mate it is good

you said you were in yea? im leaving my petitions at all bike shops round me ie PGH,BRIDGE,TORBAY MOTORCYCLE i do appreciate it mate i do

zx6ninjaboy · Post by **zx6ninjaboy** » Jan 28th, '07, 20:59

ok here it is please help out http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/LESJOINTvsBP/

X · Post by X » Jan 29th, '07, 11:29

Maver-Nick wrote:
Mike Daytona600 wrote: And do your kids serve muslims with their faces covered cos lets face it they're the ones blowing people up at the moment, not bikers.

It's about equality and we DON'T get it.

Like I said if it was the same for everyone with their faces covered I'd remove my lid in the interest of safety. BUT IT'S NOT
Yes they do serve muslims, they're not bigots and that's religion, this thread is fast starting to smack of racism... (You really shouldn't post things like that, and Admin should seriously be thinking about amending the 'Blowing people up' part)

Sonic said he respects the rules abroad but it seems most on here can't do it at home.

Being asked to remove your helmet IS in the interest of safety, as is not being able to enter a bank wearing a helmet or balaclava, or most establishments where cash is likely to be stolen.

its not racist - is he saying they all blow themselves up? is it not actually true that there is 'some' extremism...

its attitudes like this and the speed at which people start screaming racism that have led everything having to become pc - the most racially preduciced group in this country is a white, male, hetrosexual christian.

i dont want to but can you imagine the outcry if i started a white male christian only group in plymouth...

the news this morning - 37% of muslims asked dont respect british laws, 13% respect Alcieda...

and they are now talking about asking people to respect british laws - too late (stable - horse bolted springs to mind)

pc-ness created this problem by forcing us to refer to each other as the pakistani community or the polish community - either WE are british or not. if you have a british passport - you are bristish.

do you think there would have been a massive outcry on celebrity big brother if shilpa had been irish???

pc-ness has led to chirstmas carols being banned, religious icons and decorations taken down - people not being able to wear crosses at work yet try to tell a shiek they cant wear a turban - the government wouldnt dare and they SHOULDNT have to tell anyone not to in the first place.

all this has led to is a segragated britain - there would not be ethnic minorities if everyone had not been so desparate to be pc.

everyones human, no matter what, so treat them the same way. if they wanted to be treated differently then they need to go to the country of the treatments origin.

respect and tolerance is one thing - changing one country's religion to another so you dont upset people is another.

and this started out as a discussion about helmets.

baskie · Post by **baskie** » Jan 29th, '07, 12:08

watters wrote:sorry but there are notices up before you enter saying not to wear them so why moan when you ignore the sign and proceed to wear them?

if your bike was stolen and they rode to a petrol station and took their helmet off after re-fuelling, wouldnt you be happy that the cctv caught their faces on camera?

chris has a point. mthese stickers have been on the entry pointy for years and years. but ross also has a point. 6 of one half a dozen or the other. TBH should be all for one or none for all. simple as.

either everyone takes head gear off, weather sumbrero, turban,helmet cap. or we all leave them on.

YOU DECIDE

Maver-Nick · Post by **Maver-Nick** » Jan 29th, '07, 12:35

I agree with almost everything Sonic said 2 posts ago (I'm not gonna quote, too much space) I keep my views a little closer to my chest though, when you've experienced the hatred first hand, you learn to keep your gob shut.

I could write stuff and be as controversial about alternative religion as the next bloke, but my point was, should we be posting about religious stuff on here and come across as a racist bunch (As was discussed on here before) I'm sure there's non terrorist, bike riding muslims out there.

Doesn't it say... 'No Swearing or Racist posts' on the home page... do we risk losing this site if we post things like that ?

Flopper · Post by **Flopper** » Jan 29th, '07, 14:25

zx6ninjaboy wrote:ok here it is please help out http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/LESJOINTvsBP/

We the undersigned here by sign this petition that unless BP PETROL GARAGE(HELE)provide a clean and tidy place to place motorcycle helmits upon or change there policy in the removing of helmits ,We will not be taking our business there.

Petition are a great idea for raising the profile of your campaign. It might look a bit more professional if you spelt correctly the very thing you are moaning about!

zx6ninjaboy · Post by **zx6ninjaboy** » Jan 29th, '07, 16:32

to maver nick.......... i have a swear filter on my petition so before it gets sent out or whatever the coments wont appear on the screen

to flopper ........ i now relise my error and will change thaks for pointing it out mate

please sign!!!!!!!

Maver-Nick · Post by **Maver-Nick** » Jan 29th, '07, 16:57

zx6ninjaboy wrote: i have a swear filter on my petition so before it gets sent out or whatever the coments wont appear on the screen

You need to read things more carefully my friend...

I was talking about possible racist comments being posted on SWB and the chance of us losing the site because of it, nothing at all about your petition.

The same as you saying to me 'You are in yea?'... No, read my previous posts, I most certainly am not... But hey, we're all entitled to our opinions, so if you have good luck with your petition, then I wish you well... but I will still be removing my helmet.