Lots of conflicting info on this thread matey so heres my tuppence worth to confuse you a bit more.
Normal roads in the dry I only use the front
Normal roads in the wet I use both
Going for it on the road or track I use both for the following reasons.
1. You have 2 points of resistance slowing the bike so you can leave the throttle open longer before braking. Next time you use a braking marker try it with and without the back brake. You will see a difference.
2. Stops the rear trying to overtake the front when hard on the brakes.
3. When you use the rear it pressures the rear suspension and drops the centre of gravity of the bike more evenly which means you can corner quicker. That only works on my R1 because of the way the bike reacts to braking and turning. On the R6 I use less rear as it turns harder and I can put more force on the front.
Other people say different. Its all down to individual riding style and preference.
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TOM the only thing i relate to that is when i use the rear brake for a mega "late brake move" i out brake myself as it just creates "CHATTER"
The rear jumps and stutters and just gives you false direction as to what you need to do.
Grip it by the front 100% and let off when you need to turn in. If in doesn't turn in then you obviously still have the the brake on or you braked too late and carrying too much speed "BUT" and this is a big "BUT" if you have the abillity to use the rear to help drop it in then fair play to you
One day i will be able to do this
Just not brave or experainced enough yet 
The rear jumps and stutters and just gives you false direction as to what you need to do.
Grip it by the front 100% and let off when you need to turn in. If in doesn't turn in then you obviously still have the the brake on or you braked too late and carrying too much speed "BUT" and this is a big "BUT" if you have the abillity to use the rear to help drop it in then fair play to you
One day i will be able to do this
Just not brave or experainced enough yet MARK xx
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If it suits your style of riding it works and if it dont it dont. It works for me on the R1 but not on the R6 which is lighter and turns quicker for any number of reasons. Then again I carry a lot more speed in to a corner with the 6. Horses for courses matey.Blimey wrote:TOM the only thing i relate to that is when i use the rear brake for a mega "late brake move" i out brake myself as it just creates "CHATTER"
The rear jumps and stutters and just gives you false direction as to what you need to do.
Grip it by the front 100% and let off when you need to turn in. If in doesn't turn in then you obviously still have the the brake on or you braked too late and carrying too much speed "BUT" and this is a big "BUT" if you have the abillity to use the rear to help drop it in then fair play to you
One day i will be able to do this
Either way I get more chatter without the rear than I do with it. Someone wrote earlier that Buckingham never uses a rear brake but Mick Doohan raved about the importance of it. Both good riders but differing styles.
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its all down to personal preference and more importnatly riding styles, with the way i position my feet off the peg i cant reach the back brake so if i was to use a rear brake i would need a thumb brake and i aint got a spare grand just to use the rear brake 
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I think Tom is right about riding styles dictating it - and I also think your bike (to an extent) can dictate your riding style.
the absolute best way to prevent a bike getting rear end chatter is to have a good slipper clutch. (some are better than others)
something like the straight at pembrey where you are on a fast 160mph odd straight into a hairpin and where the back can be near off the deck just before you turn in. A good slipper clutch works wonders - you can just hammer it down the gearbox from 5th into 2nd or 1st quickly whilst your pulling to a halt and (if you leave the rear brake alone) the back end will not even slightly hint at chattering, leaving the bike nice and settled for the slow turn in.
"1. You have 2 points of resistance slowing the bike so you can leave the throttle open longer before braking. Next time you use a braking marker try it with and without the back brake. You will see a difference."
....and if you see a difference this means that you could get on the front harder...keep doing it, everytime you see a difference increase your grip on the front lever and eventually (presuming your bike copes well with heavy front braking) the conclusion will be that you will get to a point where the back is doing almost nothing and there wont be a difference.
Interesting thread all. I think the best thing to take from it is its about riding styles and to experiment and just see which you (and your bike!) prefers.
the absolute best way to prevent a bike getting rear end chatter is to have a good slipper clutch. (some are better than others)
something like the straight at pembrey where you are on a fast 160mph odd straight into a hairpin and where the back can be near off the deck just before you turn in. A good slipper clutch works wonders - you can just hammer it down the gearbox from 5th into 2nd or 1st quickly whilst your pulling to a halt and (if you leave the rear brake alone) the back end will not even slightly hint at chattering, leaving the bike nice and settled for the slow turn in.
"1. You have 2 points of resistance slowing the bike so you can leave the throttle open longer before braking. Next time you use a braking marker try it with and without the back brake. You will see a difference."
....and if you see a difference this means that you could get on the front harder...keep doing it, everytime you see a difference increase your grip on the front lever and eventually (presuming your bike copes well with heavy front braking) the conclusion will be that you will get to a point where the back is doing almost nothing and there wont be a difference.
Interesting thread all. I think the best thing to take from it is its about riding styles and to experiment and just see which you (and your bike!) prefers.