Killer cop

[madshep]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/7975178.stm


IF ???!!! punishments are to fit crimes, and bearing in mind that poor old Mr Bennet recently got 6mths inside for doing 122mph on an open road WITHOUT any dire consequences ............ then this [bar steward] MUST go down for about 10 years.

But what do you think he'll actually get???????

[billinom8s]

promoted to sargent, 10 grand raise and fast tracked to head of armed response division. Oh yeah and used in a promotional leaflet on how great the police are at driving and also covering tracks.

[Blue]

I hope the book thrown at him. There is no excuse for anyone even if he was on blues and twos to be doing 90 in a 30

[Stately]

I hope the book thrown at him. There is no excuse for anyone even if he was on blues and twos to be doing 90 in a 30

So if you, or someone you knews safety depended on the Police arriving quickly, would you expect them to obey all traffic laws and stick ridgidly to the speed limits ?

Personally, I think they're damned if they do, and damned if they don't.

[Blue]

No learn to read. What I said was that there was not excuse to be doing 90 in a 30. Thats 3 times the limit

I have no problem at all with the police when needed breaking the speed limit but he was doing 90 with no blue lights showing or sirens to warn anyone that he was covering ground so fast. As a professional driver he should be responseable for his actions the same was as any other professional driver would be in any other vehicle.

Before you type pointless crap at people try reading what the thread is about.

[Bladerunner]

I remember hearing about this at the time. Apperently she was with her boyfriend when it happened, he quite rightly got very upset and had a go at the driver (shouting, not violence) and got nicked for it. Unbelievable.

I have no problem at all with the police when needed breaking the speed limit but he was doing 90 with no blue lights showing or sirens to warn anyone that he was covering ground so fast. As a professional driver he should be responseable for his actions the same was as any other professional driver would be in any other vehicle.

In a 30 zone through a housing estate. Sums it up really.

I saw a police program on telly last night in which they raided the home of a drug dealer and discovered a bag of crack, 100-200 other pills in a bag and a shite load of canabis. At the end of the program it said the bloke was convicted for dealing class A drugs. Using the recent case of Mr Bennett - who got 6 months for speeding and not actually harming anyone at all - as a template I would have expected the dealer to get sent down for somewhere in the region of 10 years, given that speeding gets you 6 months. In fact he got a 20 month suspended sentence (no prison for him then) and community service with no fine . From this I can only deduce that the message the CPS wants to project to the country is that they'd rather we all became drug dealers and smack-heads than break the speed limit .

[Bat Fastard]

**From this I can only deduce that the message the CPS wants to project to the country is that they'd rather we all became drug dealers and smack-heads than break the speed limit.**

Sh1t isnt it?

[Maver-Nick]

Does anyone think that this cop doesn't care... ?

He was trying to do his job to the best of his ability to protect us all from scumbags.

I bet he would love to be able to turn the clock back as would many of us when sh!t happens.

Do you think he's slept a wink since... I'd bet not.

[Mervin]

Does anyone think that this cop doesn't care... ?

He was trying to do his job to the best of his ability to protect us all from scumbags.

I bet he would love to be able to turn the clock back as would many of us when sh!t happens.

Do you think he's slept a wink since... I'd bet not.

i dare say he may not have slept a wink, but he is still responsible for taking the life of a young girl due to his stupid actions, if he was using a gun he would have to get authorization to use it i think , surely if they had to check in/get authorisation to go doing silly speeds in towns then they would think a little longer and switch on lights sirens etc,
i have seen too many police cars being driven without he slightest regard for other people just because they think they are above the law, I was nearly hit on a bend by one overtaking when he could not see what was coming the other way once, luckily for him i was driving a van and not the truck, or he would have become another statistic, at the end of the day any road user is responsible for their actions and if they do something silly should pay the price
in this case he knew what he was doing and should serve a sentence fitting the crime
Merv

[Princess]

Non of his "emergency lighting" was on so he is in the wrong.

But those speeds are justifiable in a code 1(blues and twos response), I remember seeing 115mph in a 30 zone village with everything on....If a little girl had ran out at night, then we would be cleared and the family would be in the wrong....

You got to remember police are responding to calls that you, THE PUBLIC have made.

Accidents will always happen.its human nature.

90 in a residential area is fine as long as you have atleast the blue lights on, he did not so hes in trouble...

the CPS is the biggest joke ever and I would happily blow up all CPS buildings, they are not human and obviously lack in the sense of humour department which is obviously detached from there building.

And if people do not know how the system works with police responses etc you really shouldn't comment as you know fcuk all, hence some of the above comments are 100% BS.

[Maver-Nick]

Accidents will always happen.its human nature.

My point exactly... ACCIDENT

Several on here would have rode their bikes at similar speeds through built up zones just because they wanted to...

At least this cop had a motive... so he was wrong not having Blues and 2's on... I repeat... ACCIDENT

[PeterM]

Several on here would have rode their bikes at similar speeds through built up zones just because they wanted to...

I was gonna type something about that and thought better of it as there is enough nastiness between Bikers as it is and I................

[madshep]

Couple of points to note here to all of you above who are 'defending' this arsehole's actions:--

Yes of course you would want an emergency service to respond quickly if it was you or your family that was in need - imagine if it was YOUR daughter who desperately needed an ambulance

And yes they do respond to calls made by the public.

However this guy gave chase because the car he passed had activated the automatic number plate recognition system in his police car. This could have been for a stolen car, or a car with an out-of-date tax disc etc etc, none of which warrant the way he behaved.

And so, yes the police do have a right to speed WHEN it is necessary, BUT if their actions result in a death ( not an accident ) - and again, imagine if it was YOUR daughter - they must take the consequences squarely on their blue chins.

PS I recently had to do a " driver improvement course" with the police and DCC for incident that occurred when I was driving a car, and one of the first things they said on the day is that there is no such thing as an 'accident' ---- someone always has the power/ability to prevent or avoid!!!

[kawasakiz]

Do you think the scuffer would of thought it was not dangerous or careless driving if it was his child that was killed......mmm...doubt it

[Stately]

No learn to read. What I said was that there was not excuse to be doing 90 in a 30. Thats 3 times the limit

I have no problem at all with the police when needed breaking the speed limit but he was doing 90 with no blue lights showing or sirens to warn anyone that he was covering ground so fast. As a professional driver he should be responseable for his actions the same was as any other professional driver would be in any other vehicle.

Before you type pointless crap at people try reading what the thread is about.

As has been said already, Police drivers are allowed to drive at those speeds where circumstances dictate.

What's kippered this bloke is that he didn't have his lights and sirens on, but that is something the Police do when they do not want to alert an offending driver that they are closing in, because he is less likely to make a bolt for it once the copper is up his chuff.

If the offending driver gets a hint of Police presence from far enough away, then he might think he has a chance, and a lethal chase could then begin.

It was a tragic error of judgement, but it was an accident.

Madshep quote
"However this guy gave chase because the car he passed had activated the automatic number plate recognition system in his police car. This could have been for a stolen car, or a car with an out-of-date tax disc etc etc, none of which warrant the way he behaved".

Time and time again I read letters from readers to bike magazines and MCN, condemning the Police for not taking the issue of bike theft seriously and letting the theiving scum get away with it.

Here we have an example of the Police taking the issue seriously, and being condemned for going too fast to catch the guy.

As I say.

Damned if they do - Damned if they don't.