Sump funked?

Any General info on Mechanics based on 'all' bikes...

Moderator: Staff

Milky
Learner Driver
Posts: 2328
Joined: Jul 20th, '08, 21:40
Location: Exeter

Sump funked?

Post by Milky »

i decided i would change my oil today.. and also over-tighten my sump plug and leave my bike dripping oil :evil: I'm not sure whether i've shredded the thread on the sump.. or both.. but i'm ordering a new plug and washer.. i'll try the new washer without touching the sump first.. is there any non-permenant thread locking paste or anything i can use that will improve the seal and alos withstand the heat etc?

If i have dammaged the thread in the sump, would a helicoil insert do the job or would it just be easier to buy a whole new sump for it? Thanks, Tom.
Rieju RS2 > ZXR400 L1 > ZX6R G1 > GSXR600 K1 > Z750 '04 > R6 '99 > ZX636R '56 > Ducati 748e > BSA Bantam D13 '67 > GSXR600 K7 > YZ250 '04 > KTM 250 ECX '00 > RMZ 250 '08 > ZX9R '99 > GSXR 600 K3
User avatar
TLS-Moose
Site Admin
Posts: 7148
Joined: Dec 14th, '05, 22:59
Location: The fringes of NA, sadly not the UK equivalent of LA!!

Re: Sump funked

Post by TLS-Moose »

A new sump is an easy option if you can find one at a sensible price.

Common repair is a threadsert or helicoil. Either CMS in Pinhoe or Exeter Motor Services in the City Industrial Estate, Haven Banks will be able to sort you out. Don't take a chance and bodge it - the last thing you want is for it to give way and dump it's oil over the back tyre whilst out riding - potential crash and blown engine at the same time :wink:
Of all the things I have ever lost, I miss my mind the most .....

Handle stressful situations like a dog - If you can't eat it or play with it, pee on it and walk away
jam
Learner Driver
Posts: 516
Joined: Jan 3rd, '08, 18:45

Re: Sump funked

Post by jam »

See what size thread the sump bolt is, then you can re tap the sump and use a larger bolt in it, for example if it's an M16 now then you should be able to re tap it to M18 and use a larger bolt in there, cheaper than having a Helicoil installed.
Personally I'm no fan of Helicoils, I always use Timeserts rather than Helicoil, I've had helicoils fail in the past, but I've only known a Timesert fail once and that was a very extreme example so doesn't really count.
Milky
Learner Driver
Posts: 2328
Joined: Jul 20th, '08, 21:40
Location: Exeter

Re: Sump funked

Post by Milky »

what about thread selant/locking stuff?
Rieju RS2 > ZXR400 L1 > ZX6R G1 > GSXR600 K1 > Z750 '04 > R6 '99 > ZX636R '56 > Ducati 748e > BSA Bantam D13 '67 > GSXR600 K7 > YZ250 '04 > KTM 250 ECX '00 > RMZ 250 '08 > ZX9R '99 > GSXR 600 K3
Cheese Monkey
Learner Driver
Posts: 989
Joined: Mar 11th, '08, 15:10
Location: Plymouth

Re: Sump funked

Post by Cheese Monkey »

Drill and tap, sorted the bandit right
[img]http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb150/xblack_sunshinex/cheesy-1.jpg[/img]
Milky
Learner Driver
Posts: 2328
Joined: Jul 20th, '08, 21:40
Location: Exeter

Re: Sump funked

Post by Milky »

Cheese Monkey wrote:Drill and tap, sorted the bandit right
yeh i think that's what'l probly happen..
Rieju RS2 > ZXR400 L1 > ZX6R G1 > GSXR600 K1 > Z750 '04 > R6 '99 > ZX636R '56 > Ducati 748e > BSA Bantam D13 '67 > GSXR600 K7 > YZ250 '04 > KTM 250 ECX '00 > RMZ 250 '08 > ZX9R '99 > GSXR 600 K3
Funky
Learner Driver
Posts: 6646
Joined: Sep 11th, '05, 15:37
First Name: Aaron
Location: Exeter

Re: Sump funked

Post by Funky »

In future..

haynes Manual
torque settings
Torque wrench

No problem
Image
Milky
Learner Driver
Posts: 2328
Joined: Jul 20th, '08, 21:40
Location: Exeter

Re: Sump funked

Post by Milky »

Funky wrote:In future..

haynes Manual - check
torque settings - check
Torque wrench - nope

No problem
:cry:
Rieju RS2 > ZXR400 L1 > ZX6R G1 > GSXR600 K1 > Z750 '04 > R6 '99 > ZX636R '56 > Ducati 748e > BSA Bantam D13 '67 > GSXR600 K7 > YZ250 '04 > KTM 250 ECX '00 > RMZ 250 '08 > ZX9R '99 > GSXR 600 K3
Banditmax

Re: Sump funked?

Post by Banditmax »

To be fair tom the threads might have been screwed already. Unless you were using a 5ft bar to tighten it.
arkell
Learner Driver
Posts: 26
Joined: Apr 7th, '09, 10:40
First Name: T

Re: Sump funked?

Post by arkell »

download the workshop manual off zxrworld.co.uk, print it off and keep a copy in the garage/shed. That'w what I've done and havnt fu*ked anything up 'yet'! :mrgreen:
[i]STOP CLUBBING[/i]


BABY SEALS!
User avatar
Maver-Nick
Learner Driver
Posts: 4280
Joined: Oct 18th, '05, 19:48
First Name: Nick
Location: Exeter: K5 GSXR 1000

Re: Sump funked?

Post by Maver-Nick »

You're not having much luck with this bike are ya mate... :roll: :(
Please help...
http://www.justgiving.com/NICK-VENN
Powerhouse Mixed Martial Arts
http://tinyurl.com/strikeforce-MMA
The Beatings Will Continue... Until Morale Improves
webster

Re: Sump funked?

Post by webster »

Maver-Nick wrote:You're not having much luck with this bike are ya mate... :roll: :(
that's all part of the fun, adds to the satisfaction when it does work
User avatar
Blimey
Learner Driver
Posts: 3299
Joined: Feb 13th, '05, 14:56
Location: Exeter

Re: Sump funked?

Post by Blimey »

I've done the same matey it comes with experience. Learn by your mistakes and all.

I ended up buying a second hand sump for £20 i think it was but you will also need a new gasket and then for even more practice you got all those little sump bolts to tighten to the correct torque :lol:

Good luck mate with what ever you consider doing but don't bodge it like Mossey suggested its not worth it
MARK xx
Milky
Learner Driver
Posts: 2328
Joined: Jul 20th, '08, 21:40
Location: Exeter

Re: Sump funked?

Post by Milky »

Banditmax wrote:To be fair tom the threads might have been screwed already. Unless you were using a 5ft bar to tighten it.
just used a 17mm halfords own ring spanner. i guess its just my almighty strength that's done it.. 8)
Rieju RS2 > ZXR400 L1 > ZX6R G1 > GSXR600 K1 > Z750 '04 > R6 '99 > ZX636R '56 > Ducati 748e > BSA Bantam D13 '67 > GSXR600 K7 > YZ250 '04 > KTM 250 ECX '00 > RMZ 250 '08 > ZX9R '99 > GSXR 600 K3
Banditmax

Re: Sump funked?

Post by Banditmax »

I guess that they were funked before you got to it anyway then, unless you put the bolt in cross threaded.
Post Reply