Mandatory speed limiters and data loggers from 2022

[menzies3032]

Hi All

Just seen this video and have to say think this is worth a watch. What it basically says is that starting in 2022 for new model (so not new vehicles that are current models but new models) of light vehicles there will be the requirement for cars, bikes and vans to have fitted mandatory speed limiters that will not allow you to break the speed limit on any road.

Think it’s fair to say this will probably be the death of motorcycles on the road.

https://youtu.be/5hY2HaR4K5c

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[Bilko1000]

It's all in the name of safety just like compulsory jabs or u lose your job or right to travel or attend events. What could possibly be wrong with that in a democratic society

[Jug]

I don't actually think it'll happen, or should I say that it won't get any further than just being a speed advisory feature.
Any system that overrides the driver will be very unpopular and a new car sales killer, and that would be the end of it.

On a larger scale, as the economic slowdown (that has been masked by covid and other banking tricks) becomes apparent, they'll have so much more to worry about than this BS. It'll get watered down & delayed.

[Mervin]

we have had 56mph limiters on trucks for years , in spite of the speed limit being 60 mph on dual carriage ways and motorways , its a pain in the ass at first but you get used to it , all the Brexiteers said that was EU law they will do away with it , but our government had to approve and enforce it so no way they will do away with it,

[Jay]

Fake news it will never happen

[TLS-Moose]

Fake news ...... it'll never happen ..... how many own (mostly German) cars that already have (an admittedly much higher) hard speed limiter? How many of us drive work vans that have hard speed limiters on them? It is but a matter of time ..... along with GPS based auto speed control.

Sadly the world seems controlled by those we only see transport and travel as a necessary function to be endured, rather than the journey and method of travel to be enjoyed as something in it's own right....

[Jug]

how many own (mostly German) cars that already have (an admittedly much higher) hard speed limiter? How many of us drive work vans that have hard speed limiters on them?

Both of those are for good/practical reasons, and generally have the support of those that purchase said vehicles.

[Bob]

If it did happen it would make all of our older bikes more valuable

[Mervin]

If it did happen it would make all of our older bikes more valuable

aye just imagine stuck at 70 on the motorway on your brand spanking new Suzuki gsxr1000 being passed by gang of old harley riders at 80

[menzies3032]

Have to say I am with you guys I am really hoping that the the government makes a "you turn" on this or that its fake. Not to say that I am an advocate of doing stupid speeds on the road as, been there, done that and even changed bikes to have more fun at more sensible speeds. But if we get to a stage where we are no longer riding and the electronics are doing all the work for you then it takes all the fun out of the experience. I recently got a new company car change and it has got a lot of automatic systems that will do adaptive cruise control monitoring both bends in the road and cars ahead and will also change the cruise speed you have set to a new speed limit as you cross the line. Add to this lane lock systems and an automatic gearbox you basically do nothing with the systems engaged other then a little bit of steering, makes for a very boring driving experience so really hoping this tech is not on its way for bikes.

[billinom8s]

Audi and bmw drivers have been applying the lane hogging and lazy driving techniques for years, way before the electronics came along and started doing it for them.
It was originally developed by Volvo drivers until it became too much like effort.

[julesh]

cant see how it could/would be available for bikes,think the govt/manufacturers would be constantly facing lawsuits

your in a corner you need to apply the throttle to pull you into it and exit cleanly, you cant because the bikes limiter wont allow you, forcing you across the road into oncoming traffic or off the edge of the road

cant possibly see how they can apply it to motorcycles

[goatpants]

Not sure what the fuss is about. If it happens, take your pride and joy to a mapping specialist and get it deleted.

[ptolemyx]

Then when you get caught speeding you'll get double the sentence
As someone who never exceeds a posted speed limit I have nothing to worry about

[Jug]

It really isn't fake news.. it might actually happen, at least in the EU.
Also that youtuber is a bit of plank when it comes to this stuff.

Our government had said that we'll continue to match the EU rules after Brexit.. but that was back in 2019 when the original article was published.
Our government were keen to stay closely tied to the EU back then... I think that sentiment has now gone and divergence from EU regulations has started to happen.

It was also stated that we would have to accept this equipment as EU car manufacturers would be unlikely to offer vehicles made to a different spec just to accommodate our market... yet they already do as cars sold here have their steering wheels on the opposite side.

If there is an opportunity for car makers to leave off speed limiting equipment for all right hand drive cars, and thus save money on those units, you can bet that they will.

So this is why I think it just won't happen here, not if we don't want it to.


Quote from the RAC article that the video was based upon was (from 2019..)

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/news/motori ... -limiters/

"Even though the UK is planning to leave the EU this year, it’s likely the new speed limiter rules would continue to apply here after Brexit.

The UK’s Vehicle Certification Agency (VCA) has stated it intends to mirror EU rules post-Brexit, while car makers are unlikely to produce different vehicles specifically for the UK market.

However, some other aspects of driving are likely to change after Britain leaves the EU."