SPEED

Post by **TLS-Moose** » Oct 26th, '07, 08:13

Just a little note - SPEED have moved, and are having an "open weekend" this weekend ...... they are now very easy to find, at the old St Davids Saab site opposite Exeter St Davids railway station.

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/ ... ledealers/

Chopper Haven, the custom folk, have also moved in alongside ......

Nice to see a new(ish) venture doing well

VTR · Post by **VTR** » Oct 26th, '07, 09:19

Is this place any good? The reason I ask is that they advertise some bikes as 'sold as is' with no warranty etc. I'd be a bit miffed if I bought a bike from them for it to go wrong shortly afterwards & have no come back. Although I've got a feeling they'd still be liable to some extent, but you could do without the hassle.

CvPiper · Post by **CvPiper** » Oct 26th, '07, 10:49

They are liable for the first 6 months on any vehicle they sell.

They probably don't warranty it to save £100 per bike, and just fix them off their own back when they break.

philh · Post by **philh** » Oct 26th, '07, 11:33

I've known the chaps from Speed for some years. They're top blokes, certainly honest. Had a fun hour or so last weekend helping them to shift stock from A to B.

Their 'sold as seen' stuff is, I think, the bottom end of what they take in on part ex's. No turkeys, just exactly what you'd expect for something probably old and high on milage! Worthy winter hack's maybe.

Post by **TLS-Moose** » Oct 26th, '07, 11:39

Indeedy, as Phil says

The "sold as seen" stuff appears to be Trade-in stuff that in the car world would go out the door to small traders.

I've known Graham and a few of the others for longer than I care to realise, and they certainly care about their customers

baz-R · Post by **baz-R** » Oct 26th, '07, 13:47

as moose said its a open weekend at speed this weekend
theres bands and other stuff
stick your nose in and have a look around
thay will be doing mot's soon as well

all the boys are good as gold and thay take customer care as a high priorty!

as for the sold as seen thing it is on older bikes that thay have taken in on trade'ins (note alot of other places would not take older or higer mileage bikes or offer real poor mony for them)
there are nothing wrong with them but thair value is too low to fork out major money to repair if thay where to go wrong we all know how much some stuff can cost.
the real bad ones go to southwest bike brakers
at the end of the day it would be no diffrent if you bought private.
that is why thay are sold as seen (just like a trade sale)

baz-R · Post by **baz-R** » Oct 26th, '07, 13:51

and no i dont work for them as some have said!
i sometimes help out at shows when needed riding bikes to and fro mainly

i help them out and thay help me out kind of basis

TKPM · Post by **TKPM** » Oct 26th, '07, 17:35

I had my second bike a fireblade from them in Feburary, because it was only a month away from being three years old they throw in an MOT. Great guys i will be visiting them again when i decide to change my again.

Funky · Post by **Funky** » Oct 26th, '07, 18:14

Devilride (Laura) from here works there and apparently there is a 'dress your bike up' competition with a Halloween theme.

AbWill · Post by **AbWill** » Oct 26th, '07, 20:38

3 weeks ago they sold a bike to a customer who is extremely unhappy that the bike he thought he was buying as a roadworthy bike has actually failed the MOT at another garage and needs £400 spending on it. A certain new manager there wrote "sold for spares or repair only" on the invoice without the customer knowing and now he has gone to them and asked for them to help or contribute to fixing the bike they told him to f$$$ off, leaing the customer in the position of having to go through a solicitor to get them to honour the staturtory 6 months warranty obligation they fail to realise they have. Anyway, rant over. Enjoy the weekend but for heavens sake if you buy a bike from them, check it out first, including HPI checks as they don't bother doing them either if the local police are to be believed.

VTR · Post by **VTR** » Oct 27th, '07, 10:00

AbWill wrote:3 weeks ago they sold a bike to a customer who is extremely unhappy that the bike he thought he was buying as a roadworthy bike has actually failed the MOT at another garage and needs £400 spending on it. A certain new manager there wrote "sold for spares or repair only" on the invoice without the customer knowing and now he has gone to them and asked for them to help or contribute to fixing the bike they told him to f$$$ off, leaing the customer in the position of having to go through a solicitor to get them to honour the staturtory 6 months warranty obligation they fail to realise they have. Anyway, rant over. Enjoy the weekend but for heavens sake if you buy a bike from them, check it out first, including HPI checks as they don't bother doing them either if the local police are to be believed.

Interesting. This was my concern when looking at some of the bikes. I didn't fancy buying a bike for it to possibly go wrong shortly afterwards & then have all the legal hassle of trying to get it sorted. Another concern is that if they are like this with the 'sold as is' bikes, then they may have a similar 'don't care' attitude with the bikes with a warranty.
I'm not saying that this IS the case, just my cynical mind

bambam · Post by **bambam** » Oct 27th, '07, 11:12

just as another topic a bloke from where i work took his bike in to be serviced and they managed to blow his engine up!!
they then asked him if it was a runner when he brought it in BEFORE tellling him they f###ed it.
out of the kindness of their hearts they offered to repair it for him!!!

CvPiper · Post by **CvPiper** » Oct 27th, '07, 11:14

Post by **TLS-Moose** » Oct 27th, '07, 11:42

AbWill wrote:3 weeks ago they sold a bike to a customer who is extremely unhappy that the bike he thought he was buying as a roadworthy bike has actually failed the MOT at another garage and needs £400 spending on it. A certain new manager there wrote "sold for spares or repair only" on the invoice without the customer knowing and now he has gone to them and asked for them to help or contribute to fixing the bike they told him to f$$$ off, leaing the customer in the position of having to go through a solicitor to get them to honour the staturtory 6 months warranty obligation they fail to realise they have. Anyway, rant over. Enjoy the weekend but for heavens sake if you buy a bike from them, check it out first, including HPI checks as they don't bother doing them either if the local police are to be believed.

Not that you have any vested interest in slagging off a competitor ........

As has oft been said here, I know of no garage that hasn't had a dissaffected customer at some point, so there will always be someone to post a contrary comment.

Any purchaser who buys a bike should treat it as a "private" sale, and check everything themselves. The warranty of buying from a "dealer" is purely insurance on the back, really ......

AbWill · Post by **AbWill** » Oct 27th, '07, 12:30

Actually, warranty is a legal obligation if you are a dealer. You are duty bound to provide 6 months warranty on any vehicle you sell unless both the dealer and the customer sign the invoice as "this vehicle is sold as unroadworthy" Note: Customer has to knowingly sign it too.

Also, I don't go in for slaggin off other dealers just for a whim. This is on a personal level as the customers involved a perhaps not the sharpest tacks in the pot and have been taken advantage of in what I see as a most immoral and downright disgusting way.