Smoking going up to 18

Dynasangel · Post by **Dynasangel** » Jan 1st, '07, 10:11

Just wondering if you think this will stop under age smoking as I don't think it will

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6216523.stm

V6 Mondy · Post by **V6 Mondy** » Jan 1st, '07, 15:14

If they wanna smoke they will get fags somehow. You see enough underaged smokers now, making the age limit higher isnt gonna work

in my opinion anyway

Jon B · Post by **Jon B** » Jan 1st, '07, 16:44

What happens to 16 year olds who are already hooked?

DynaMight · Post by **DynaMight** » Jan 1st, '07, 17:15

Jon B wrote:What happens to 16 year olds who are already hooked?

They can quit for 2 years, It works the same as drugs. It's as easy as this 'Do you want some drugs' reply by saying 'No' and thats it!!

Post by **billinom8s** » Jan 1st, '07, 18:40

smoking should be banned - period !!

only people it does good for are the owners of the ciggy factories

Post by **billinom8s** » Jan 1st, '07, 18:45

government are only doing this cos the longer its 'naughty' for kids to do it, the longer they will keep doing it thus putting more money to the taxman

Maver-Nick · Post by **Maver-Nick** » Jan 1st, '07, 18:56

Jon B wrote:What happens to 16 year olds who are already hooked?

They should put their fag money into a piggy bank, when they realise how much they've saved in 2 years maybe they'll give up for good...

Funky · Post by **Funky** » Jan 1st, '07, 19:18

The new adverts, informing there are 69 cancer causing chemicals in cigarette smoke including arsenic, benzene and formaldehyde make me think. Why are these chemicals in them? What other crap is in them?

Dynasangel · Post by **Dynasangel** » Jan 1st, '07, 19:38

There is about 400 chemicals in one cigarette. Im so glad I gave up.

http://www.talktofrank.com/drugs.aspx?id=202

Look under the tobacco section tells you alot

Stinky · Post by **Stinky** » Jan 1st, '07, 20:28

billinom8s wrote:only people it does good for are the owners of the ciggy factories

Amen to that.

Smoking companys have to addict at least 106,000 people together each year because so many of their customers are killed from their products. Although I think the goverment is just full of greedy idiots, I also think people who smoke are pritty stupid to, espesaily if they complain about it like me.
Just my appinion.

clunk · Post by **clunk** » Jan 2nd, '07, 10:02

Just ban it completely.
Filthy, smelly, disgusting habit which benefits no-one except the tobacco companies.

Uping the age limit is a step in the right direction, but with most people getting fags and baccy on the black market it probably wont have much effect.

Post by **TLS-Moose** » Jan 2nd, '07, 10:38

Can't see it making any difference at all - if 12yr olds and up can get them now, why will it make any difference? I have not heard of a single case of an under 16 being prosecuted for smoking .........

As for smoking, I don't care one way or the other - I've chosen not to smoke, never have, but do choose to drink (now and then

), and do choose to ride a bike (slowly

), all I ask is that if people wish to smoke then they do it in the privacy of their own home or in an open space where it will not impact on others. I find it quite sad to see all the poor saps huddled around office block doors cowering from the weather just to feed their addiction ............ there again I think the same when I drive across town late at night and see people sat in the gutter, puking or unable to walk.

It's like all these things that everyone thinks should be banned (smoking, hunting, boxing, etc., ) where do you stop - logically alcohol should be banned - look at the cost to police and health care - but what about motorbikes .... far safer to use public transport ..... it all comes down to sensibility and personal choice.

If you can ban one thing "for the safety of those who don't know what's good for themselves", where do you stop

jason · Post by **jason** » Jan 2nd, '07, 11:14

billinom8s wrote:smoking should be banned - period !!

only people it does good for are the owners of the ciggy factories

I hate smoking, I dont like smokey pubs.

It does nothing but make you unhealthy and unfit, and it infringes on others.

but that said I would still rather put up with people smoking than have to shoulder that Tax burden, the goverment draws 8 billion pounds* in tax revenue from cigerette smokers every year. That money has to come from somewhere, be sure that if you ban smoking it is you and me who will have to pick up that 8 billion pound tab.

So carry on smoking please...I get taxed enough already.

*
http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/media/26E ... t_2320.pdf

page 270 if want year on year tax income stats from the gov - quite an interesting set of large numbers...

Jay · Post by **Jay** » Jan 2nd, '07, 11:22

GOOD...........Bloody dirty tabbers

Tom L · Post by **Tom L** » Jan 2nd, '07, 15:25

I wouldn't class myself as a smoker, but if I’m out in the pub or out drinking i usually have a cigarette or two. I don't thinking anyone can get on their high horse about smoking innless they live an active life, healthy vegan diet and don’t drink. It's like saying "excuse me, can you keep your lung cancer to yourself while I develop liver sclerosis"

I think smoking is only bad for you when it becomes a habit, and the occasional cigarette isn't the end of the world.

changing the age from 16 to 18 wont really change anything, on one hand it might make it seem more rebelious and make it more attractive to kids in the same way "dont touch that" dosnt work either. However if it makes it a bit harder for a couple kids and stops a kid or two from being additcted, it might achive some good.

recently i was in Australia and while i was out there, they brought in a ban on smoking in pubs. The only thing it achieved was that every pub, bar and club smells of beer, feet and farts

ill take smoke any day