WHAT WOULD YOU DO ???

speedy(delboy) · Post by **speedy(delboy)** » Jul 24th, '06, 00:04

Was working last night, went into work around 10 pm ready for the night shift in the cab, and come around about 1130pm I got bored and decided to go for a ride as I was way to much awake to go home to bed.

I got home, put on my leather and got the bike out. I went into town 1st of all to see if it had got any busy-er, but it hadn't.

Now I got down to the Square (although its a roundabout

) and was waiting behind a taxi who was just pulling out and out of the blue this fuel tanker came flying over the bridge and had to slam his breaks on with smoke pouring off of his wheels. The taxi driver was in the right and when he started pulling out the Fuel tanker was not in sight.

Anyway, I pull out behind it and it happens to be going in the same direction as me. As you go through Barnstaple there is a short duel lane road and I though I would rather be in front of this loony rather than behind, so I over take him.

I head out towards the Link Road heading toward South Molton and I noticed him doing the same. I get onto the link road and he was getting closer and closer to me as the fog was coming down and I was on the speed limit.

Next thing I know he is about 10 foot of the back end of my bike and still trying to get closer, then in his stupid wisdom he starts over taking, now remember I am already doing 60mph.

He gets about 3/4 of the truck passed me and then starts pulling back in making me have to hit the breaks hard or face going underneath the truck.

The Company (AND DONT ANYONE DELETE THIS NAME) is P M Clarks of Barnstaple.

Now this guy is a right Pratt driving a Fuel Tanker - WHAT WOULD YOU DO NOW ?? - Remeber, he has nearly cause 2 major accidents in a matter of 2 miles.

Funky · Post by **Funky** » Jul 24th, '06, 00:12

Report it to the police mate, if a person has three independent complaints against them they get points i have heard and I'd also inform the company, they should know the truck by the route and the time. It may not help, but i think worth a try, especially if you can get the other taxi driver to say how much of a fecking eedgit he was..

speedy(delboy) · Post by **speedy(delboy)** » Jul 24th, '06, 00:17

Funky wrote:Report it to the police mate, if a person has three independent complaints against them they get points i have heard and I'd also inform the company, they should know the truck by the route and the time. It may not help, but i think worth a try, especially if you can get the other taxi driver to say how much of a fecking eedgit he was..

I have the other cabbies details and he said he is willing to make a complaint as well, I also took the VRN of the Fuel Tanker

Post by **TLS-Moose** » Jul 24th, '06, 00:34

You could report it to the Police, but I doubt they'd be interested unless it's a quiet night

You could definitely report it to the company .... I've done something similar myself when I saw an elderly lady being verbally abused by a dipsh*t from a tarmac firm

One other route you could take, to a body (as you probably know) far less tolerant .... report the incident to VOSA .. the firm will almost certainly find themselves the subject of a "random" visit by a member of the inspectorate .....

Jewell · Post by **Jewell** » Jul 24th, '06, 07:50

Donkey Punch him.

or a "Reach-around"

Jak · Post by **Jak** » Jul 24th, '06, 08:46

You could try reporting it to the police - but like Moose says, doubt they'll do anything. Once reported a car for literally pushing a mate and his bike off the road, police weren't interested

Write a letter to the MD of the company concerned. Send a copy of it to the local paper.

Moose's suggestion about VOSA is spot on - I'm sure a little visit from them wouldn't hurt

Mervin · Post by **Mervin** » Jul 24th, '06, 08:54

Yes Speedy do something, being a truck driver myself i support you in this we do not need looneys like this, unfortunately this seems to be too common among the tanker drivers, hopefully one day britain will catch up with europe and screw all hazardous truck speed limiters back too 50 mph. We drivers have to try and keep standards up, pratts like that do not help, As another driver said to me one i do not profess to be the best driver in the world, but i am sure i am not the worst. Oh and you most likely already know but he should only have ben doing 40 mph on the link road
Merv

sonic · Post by **sonic** » Jul 24th, '06, 09:35

report his ass - last thing we need is nobs driving a 20 tonne offensive weapon on the road...

tobyedmunds · Post by **tobyedmunds** » Jul 24th, '06, 09:47

vosa will [censored] him up. it'll go as a caution on his ADR licence (yes i have a caution too!)

i saw a fuel tanker lock up in the tunnel by the train station in plymouth whilst i was walking through. i shit myself!!!

AndyCBR · Post by **AndyCBR** » Jul 24th, '06, 10:10

Phil,

John Incledon
P.M Clarke Ltd
Seven Brethren Trading Estate
Barnstaple
EX31 2AS

01271 345151

over to you...

speedy(delboy) · Post by **speedy(delboy)** » Jul 24th, '06, 12:29

I have just got back from speaking to John Incledon of P.M Clarke Ltd (Cheers Andy) and he is not impressed with the actions of his driver, He will be calling the driver concerned in for an interview.

HOWEVER, he was still trying to defend the guy probably without himself even knowingly doing it.

He has asked that I go back tomorrow for another chat with him, once he has interviewed the driver concerned, to see what if neccessary other actions to take.

I said if nothing is done then I will be informing VOSA.

NOTES for Merv and toby, don't take this the wrong way guys but I thought I would mentioned the details you provided, and he said whoever said this was talking out of the back of their arsses (his words not mine).

Will let you know more tomorrow.

baskie · Post by **baskie** » Jul 24th, '06, 13:08

let them know whats going on. shop him out. tossers like that shouodlnt be incharge of cars let alone 10 tonne lorries. i would have to say bye bye to him.

jamieclayton9 · Post by **jamieclayton9** » Jul 24th, '06, 13:45

some people are just top class numpties. report him to the old bill mate and inform the company he drives for. he shouldnt even be driving on the road at all. what a top class prat

tobyedmunds · Post by **tobyedmunds** » Jul 24th, '06, 14:55

speedy(delboy) wrote:
NOTES for Merv and toby, don't take this the wrong way guys but I thought I would mentioned the details you provided, and he said whoever said this was talking out of the back of their arsses (his words not mine).

Will let you know more tomorrow.

bit strange really. i am a dgsa (dangerous goods safety advisor) amongst other things, for the company i work for. i also hold full adr in core and packages 1-9 (excluding class 7 - radioactive).
we work very closely with vosa, and YES YOU DO GET CAUTIONS!!!! for example, under ADR if you get caught for speeding you get prosecuted for dangerous driving NOT speeding. 6 points and you lose your licence.
the guy you have been speaking to sounds like a cowboy. ask for a copy of the driver's adr licence (A5 size) and make sure it covers tankers class 3 (flammable liquids) and their waste carriers licence. he is obliged to show you a copy of the latter as it is issued by the environment agency.

does NOT sound good

speedy(delboy) · Post by **speedy(delboy)** » Jul 24th, '06, 15:09

tobyedmunds wrote:bit strange really. i am a dgsa (dangerous goods safety advisor) amongst other things, for the company i work for. i also hold full adr in core and packages 1-9 (excluding class 7 - radioactive).
we work very closely with vosa, and YES YOU DO GET CAUTIONS!!!! for example, under ADR if you get caught for speeding you get prosecuted for dangerous driving NOT speeding. 6 points and you lose your licence.
the guy you have been speaking to sounds like a cowboy. ask for a copy of the driver's adr licence (A5 size) and make sure it covers tankers class 3 (flammable liquids) and their waste carriers licence. he is obliged to show you a copy of the latter as it is issued by the environment agency.

does NOT sound good

I will ask tomorrow, but what he said was something like, You cant get caustions on the ADR licence or words to that effect